This is a small part of this document which is the first in Quarter Sessions Order Book in the Dorset History Centre to show Lord Milton closing some of the roads.
Some of the places named are well known to us today but some, e.g. New Lodge, Old Lodge, White Hill, are not. They may be shown on the old maps we have, but they will take some finding!
This is a real long-shot: in an article by Alan J Miller in Dorset Life, Apr 2003 “Heartless Landlord and Devoted Husband”, there is an image of a young Joseph Damer, by permission of LG Stopford Sackville.
I understand that Drayton House is now owned by Charles Lionel Stopford Sackville. Does anyone know how we could contact them for more information – such as where is the painting, is there any other information on Joseph Damer, Lord Milton?
Our first meeting of the new season was well attended and 34 of us enjoyed a talk by Chris Fookes on the old roads and tracks of Milton Abbas, illustrated with maps from 1652 to today.
We had two visitors from Australia who were researching their ancestors, the Vine family. Samuel Vine occurs in the 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 census as living in, and being the proprietor or inn keeper of the Hambro Arms.
Next meeting on 1 Nov will feature a presentation on how the roads were moved by Joseph, Lord Milton in the late 18th century for his privacy, and destroyed the town.
Carol Sastradipradja has just transcribed page 104 and come across this interesting piece of information.
“Memorandum. Sunday Jan 13 Several Labouring People having complained to the Officers of the Parish that They Wanted Houses. In consequence of their Complaint the Following Inhabitants met in the Vestry after Divine Service and Unanimously agreed not to pay the House Rent for them.”
This is the first evidence of a lack of new houses in the new village. Clearly not enough had yet been built to house the labourers.
I have just finished transcribing this document which is in the Dorset History Centre catalogue reference Q/S/M/1/9 page 414.
It describes the roads which Joseph, Lord Milton had a writ issued by Chancery, to move. These road closures spelled the end of the old town of Milton Abbas as a thriving community. Now the town was no longer on the main through route, and was subsequently bypassed by the turnpike which went from Blandford to Dorchester through Milborne St Andrew.
It should be possible to locate the old roads on a modern map. Anyone fancy doing that?
this is a literal transcription:
“….beginning at the Foot of Saint Catherines Hill opposite to the said Lord Miltons Stable and from thence to the Top of the Hill where another Road Branches out of it to the Eastward leading to Beer Regis in your County and from thence Northward through the same Field called Saint Catherines Hill to a Gate leading into Higher Haydon Field and from such Gate through the South East End of Higher Haydon Field to a Gate leading into Houghton Common called Houghton Down Gate having the Lands of the said Lord Milton on both sides thereof and which said Road from the Foot of Saint Catherines Hill to Houghton Down Gate aforesaid measures in length Five Thousand six Hundred and Fifty four Feet and in breadth Twenty Feet or thereabouts Also the said Road which branches off from the before mention Road on the Top of Saint Catherines Hill aforesaid and from thence Eastward through the said Field called Saint Catherines Hill leading to Beer Regis aforesaid to a Gate which opens into Hoggen Down having the Lands of the said Lord Milton on both sides thereof and which said Road measures in length from the Top of Saint Catherines Hill to the gate which opens into Hoggen Down aforesaid two Thousand four Hundred and one Feet and in Breadth Twenty Feet or thereabouts Also another Road lying in the Parish of Milton Abbas aforesaid beginning at the Cross Roads on the Top of White Hill and from thence down the Hill called White Hill Road to the bottom thereof where another Road comes into the same called Hollow Way having the Lands of the said Lord Milton on both Sides thereof and which said Road measures in Length One Thousand seven Hundred and Forty two feet and in breadth Sixty Feet or thereabouts Also the said Road called the Holoway lying in the Parish of Milton Abbas aforesaid beginning at the Bottom of White Hill aforesaid and ending where it falls into the Cross Lane or Road leading from Milton Abbas Pound to the Parish of Dewlish in your County having the Lands of the said Lord Milton on both sides thereof and which said Road measures in length One Thousand One Hundred and Eighty Feet and in breadth Forty Feet or thereabouts”
An original document in Dorset History Centre was brought to our attention by Debbie Winter. Catalogue reference D-1168/1.
This is the only manorial court record which is in existence, and is of great interest. This one was held 13 May 1754. If only we had the complete annual series.
There are 55 people named.
Here is a part of my transcription:
The Court Leet and Law Day and View of frankpledge together with the Court Baron of the Mannor of Right Honourable Joseph Lord Milton held in and for the said Liberty and Mannor this Thirteenth Day of May one Thousand seven Hundred and fifty Four.
By the Lumley Kingston Steward
Bailliffe Joseph Legg – Appeared and was sworn to this due execution of his precepts.
Constables – John Harvey, Josiah Vacher – Appeared and were sworn to present and presented all well.
Tythingman – Andrew White – Appeared and was sworn to present and presented all well.
Assizors of Bread and Beer – William Elford, Joseph Hewit – Appeared and were sworn to present and presented all well.
This phrase occurs in the will of Richard Arnold of Bagber, 1595 as the place he wanted to be buried in the Parish Church of Milton, the building now known as the Abbey Church of Milton Abbas.
“Ile” clearly indicates the aisle of the church. We have never heard of the “aisle of Jesus” before.
Can any of our readers shed light on this term?
Phew! Well we met so many people. Over 100 visitors came along. Thank you to all those who were stewards, those who supplied the cakes, and especially those visitors who came along and shared their family history research with us. People were very generous in sharing their research. Thanks to Ann and Chris Fookes for setting up their display on the Fookes Brewery which was so important to Milton Abbas from 1850 to 1950.
We have so many new leads to add to our knowledge of the people who once lived in Milton Abbas.
We also have lots of documents to catalogue. and more research to do. Some interesting questions arose which require some further investigation.
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During the 1780’s the monthly pay out is totalling £12. Yet the rates which were collected annually are only amounting to £3. Where is the rest of the money coming from? The church collections?
This marvellous book has an amazing amount of information. Part 3 covers Whiteway Hundred which includes Milton Abbas and the adjoining parishes of Woolland, Stoke Wake, Hilton and Ibberton.
It details the origins of place names, road and track names and field names from the earliest written record of each name, and is densely packed with references to original documents.
It would be of great value to our history if we could map all these names and locations and their changes over time in the parish of Milton Abbas.
This volume is available on Abe Books for a reasonable price, and can be borrowed from Libraries West.
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